Friday, February 7, 2025

Salt Lake Occidentals

aka Oxys, Oxies



1908-8-17 Occidentals have arranged trip thru southwestern Idaho this week. Scheduled games listed. Will get back just in time for league game on Sunday.
1909-1-03 Salt Lake City - Year In Sports. Lots of Occidental bits and pieces. 
1909-9-20 SL Telegram. Occidental team making arrangements to give a grand ball at Columbia hall on the night of 10-29 to mark the closing of a successful baseball season.
    The Yampa smelter team desires to play match with Occidentals for real money - side-bet of several hundred dollars proposed. Game would be played either at Murray or SLC. Occidentals would use regular lineup and Yampa could get whomever they could. 
1909-10-13 Leave for coast.
1909-11-25 McCormicks and Occidentals will play at Vernon park today for $50 side-bet. 
    "Again the All-Stars and the Los Angeles Giants will clash at Mace Park for another of their $50 side-bets."  Lineup
1909-11-27 Occidentals and All-Stars will play tomorrow. Preview. 
1909-11-28 Occidentals team pic. Decent quality.
1909-12-05 Occidentals will play the All-Stars today.
    "Last Sunday, when the two teams mixed, the colored champions captured both the honor and the gate receipts." All-Stars have strengthened their lineup with four pros - listed. 
    "With the assistance of these recruits Capt. Bill Devereaux expects to get the goat of the dinges that romped 30 joyously about the enclosure at Chutes park after the game last Sunday. "Take it from me," said Bill, "and get your money down on the All-Stars."
1909-12-21 Occidentals will play McCormicks on Christmas. Goat talk. 
1910-10-22 Occidentals will either play in CWL or independent ball. 
1910-11-01 Occidentals dissatisfied with loss - will rematch the All-Stars at Vernon next Sunday. Langford could play in pro ball if it were not for his color. 
1911-2-13 Team reorganizes in LA. 
 
1909-10-31 Beat L.A. Giants 9-2 for $50 side-bet. $150 crowd witnessed the contest. 
1909-11-14 Beat L.A. Giants 4-2 for colored championship of coast - took three straight games in best-of-five series. 
1909-11-21 Herald. Angels beat Occidentals 6-1 before 3K fans at Chutes Park. No box. 
(1910-2-20 Boxes for Fri. (Occidentals 6, Trilbys 2) and Sat. (Trilbys 5, Occidentals 0.) Annis (white) pitched for Occidentals on Friday. Langford pitched for the Trilbys on Saturday. 
1910-2-20 Beat Trilbys 1-0 in 12 innings. At Jack Doyle's Vernon Park. 3rd game out of best-of-five series for colored championship of state. "Standing room was at a premium at the Vernon athletic ball park..."
    Gate receipts amounted to $122 - divided 60/40 between teams. 

1910-10-10 LA Herald. "Manager Black of the Occidentals yesterday received a telegram from the California Winter league saying that owing to the delay in accepting a berth in the league on the part of the Occidentals the Chicago Leland Giants had been signed up instead.
Black says that an incorrect address kept the offer from the Winter league eight days on the road.
    The Occidentals will disband this week for the winter, but plan to get together here next spring for anything that comes up. Sam Hawkins goes to Oakland. McAdoo to Kansas City, Langley to Stockton; Robinson, Lane and Langford to Los Angeles, and "Circus" Mooney to Texas, while Black and Burns will remain in Salt Lake.
    Young Peter Jackson, who has been acting as press agent, will now get busy lining up a fight for himself."
1910-11-18 SL Herald. Frank Black not sorry to lose out on being in winter league - thinks it would have been a losing proposition. His thoughts on coast ball. 
    The Occidentals have disbanded for the winter.
    "Black says that Langford and Lane will play with the Chicago Giants, with the other Occidentals having many offers. They all want to come back to Salt Lake next season. Circus Mooney is running a restaurant in a little town near Los Angeles." 
    
1909-2-20 Stockton. Scotty Allen is MG. Played 35 games before losing. George Ely listed with them, God knows why. Will play in Stockton on 3-13 and 3-14 - could find no record of those games being played. 

1909-2-21 Herald. Giants 6, Thistles 5. 
1909-4-18 LA Herald. Giants, Japanese 3. Joy park diamond.

 1909-11-21 Lineup preview. LA Giants will play All-Stars for $50 side-bet.

  1909-11-21 All-Stars (pros) 4, L.A. Giants 2. Pettus caught for L.A. Giants. Giants up 2-0 until 8th when pitcher, Barngrover, fell apart. 
    1909-11-28 LA Giants 11, San Pedro 6. "There is dejoicing [sic] among White's chocolate colored heavers of the horsehide now..." 
    "It was rumored around after the game that Manager White had visited a graveyard the night before and had secured another rabbit's left hind foot to replace the one he recently lost. With this new asset the manager is hot on the trail of the Occidentals for another game." 

1908-10-25 "THE colored Giants baseball team is one of the fastest amateur organizations in the south, having won thirty-four games out of thirty-five played so far this season, defeating such classy clubs as the McCormicks, by the score of 1 to 0; the Home Council club, by the score of 3 to 2; the Olive team, with Walter Jonson in the box, by the score of 6 to 5 in eleven innings; the Wieland club, by the score of 7 to 5; the Norwalk aggregation in three straight games, and the Pioneer Stars. Bud Clark, who twirls for the Giants, has taken part in nearly every game, with the exception of a few weeks when he went on a visit to Salt Lake City.
    This afternoon the All-Star club will try to defeat the Giants on the Joy park diamond for a side bet of $50. The first game on that diamond will be between the Pioneer Stars and the Curbain teams, which will be a curtain-raiser to the big game, which starts promptly at 2:30 o'clock. Sam Ferraris pitched a no-hit game against the Giants for the Home Council aggregation, while Clark has a record of winning twenty games for the Giants. The Giants have a scheduled game with the Edison Electric company team of the California Winter league on Thanksgiving day, which should be a hummer, for a side bet of $50, while the All-Stars will clash with the McCormicks again Saturday, October 31, for a side bet."
    Los Angeles Giants team pic + pic of Bud Clark. 
1909-11-27   Los Angeles Giants have arranged schedule of 22 games - listed. 
1909-12-15 Los Angeles Giants MG signed Langford. He gave up two hits last Sunday. "Manager Black must have been taking a snooze when Manager White of the Giants slipped away with this valuable baby."
1909-12-18 A.B. Andrews, Gateway manager, has signed Occidental pitcher Smith. 
1910-1-12 Giants now Trilbys. 
    "Giants Club Reorganized. Rejuvenation of the Los Angeles Giants has been effected and that organization will start a new career under a new name, with new uniforms and with four new players who hail from San Antonio, Tex. Henceforth the former Giants will be known as the Los Angeles Trilbys, and the club will be governed by a trio of managers, J. White, the former manager of the Giants; Charles Moore and P. D. Buck. Pitcher Mooney, one of the new ones, made a good record with the Bronchos of San Antonio, the past season. Money is considered the best colored twirler in the Lone Star state. "Baby" Webb
is another of the same club that comes well recommended. He is a utility player. His brother, J.Webb, will hold down the second cushion for the new organization, and he also was a former Broncho. Last, but not least of the new ones, is Otto Bolden, the imported 200-pound backstop, from the same Texas city. White, speaking of the future plans of the team last evening, said: "We will claim the western colored championship and will defend it against all comers. The Occidentals have no claim to this title because, when they defeated the Los Angeles Giants and claimed the honor, they were playing three white men in their lineup." Here is an opportunity for a cloudy mix-up that should bring out every smoked fan in Southern California."
1910-1-18 Manager Early of the reorganized Giants (Trilbys) put down $10 as a deposit at the LA Herald office. A game of three games will be played with the McCormicks for a side-bet of $100. When McCormick puts down $100, the Trilbys manager will put down the remaining $90. 
    ""Walter Smith, the elongated pitcher of the Gateway club, in the Trolley league, may be seen in the uniform of the Bakersfield club the coming season. Yesterday afternoon Red Devereaux had a heart to heart talk with Smith and told him to report for practice February 1. Smith was supposed to report to Captain Dillon of the Los Angeles team for spring practice March 1, but so far has refused the offer from the Angel captain, stating that he prefers to play independent ball for the present. Before coming to Southern California Smith played with the Pocatello, Idaho, club, champions of the Idaho State league, having lost only four games out of twenty-eight played. The Pocatello team won the championship of Utah from the Occidental colored nine of Salt Lake. Smith allowed only three hits, defeating the opposing club by a score of 1 to 0."
    Occidentals have secured the Chutes Grounds for 2-06 and 2-13 - will play McCormicks on first date and Santa Ana on second.
1910-1-21 "THE lot of the baseball manager is hard. Now comes Manager White of the Trilbys with a tale of woe about Scotty Allen having taken away his lease of Mace park, which leaves the colored team out in the cold as to grounds. "I never done him nothing," said White yesterday when relating the sad news. "He just flew off mad because I had agreed with Orendorff that one of our series with the Angel boys was to be played at Chutes park. It seems that Mista Allen wanted them all to be played at his Mace grounds, on which I had a contract. Understand me, sah, Ah had a contract, as Ah have received notification to the effect that that contract is no mo'- done given up de key to those grounds," When the colored magnate had finished his story his under lip was hanging unusually low and his eyes had a troubled look. As he turned away and his bulky disappearing form was silhouetted in Jim McCormick's doorway, he was heard to heave a sigh and murmur: "And the Trilbys have no mo' back yard to play in.""
    Trilbys have withdrawn from Trolley League. 
    "The Los Angeles Trilbys were entertained Wednesday evening by R. C. Owens, proprietor of the Waldorf cafe, corner of Fourth and Ruth. The real sparkling joy water flowed freely and the members of the club sang many of those old songs so well known to ball players. The big new arrival, "Cyclone Joe Williams, acted as toast master, while Manager White officiated as usher for his team."
1910-1-22 "After several days of uncertainty, the McCormicks and the Trilbys have at last succeeded in securing grounds for their scheduled three-game series, which will be played at Jack Doyle's Vernon Park today and Sunday, and, if a deciding game is necessary, Monday will be the date for it." 
    W. Smith, Occidentals pitcher, is undefeated - has won 4 out of 5 games, the other being a 12-inning tie with the Shamrocks. 
    The Occidentals will leave for San Diego today - will play a doubleheader v. San Diego. Have lost only two out of 14 games in Southern California."
1910-1-25     "Manager Black came back from the southern bay city with a story that puts a feather in Manager Black's hat. According to the black magnate, Palmer treated him royally and gave him credit for having a good team, even if they did lose. There was no mixup over the finances. What a difference a little sunshine makes in this world."
    [Notable because at time Palmer was wrangling over $ in CWL.]
1910-1-29 Sam Langford will be umpire at the All-Stars - Trilbys game. Matter was settled when Joe Woodman, Langford's manager, approved. 
1910-2-01 McCormicks and Occidentals will play on Sunday at Jack Doyle's Vernon Park. 
    Los Angeles Grays would like to play Trilbys - feel that after their decisive victory over the fast Chino team last Sunday they are deserving.
    "Promoter Orendorff is endeavoring to bring together the Oxys and the Trilbys in a game for the colored championship of the south. This would be the first championship game ever played in this part of the state between colored clubs and should prove a good drawing card.
   Tom Daly will spend his share of the gate receipts received in the Angel-Trilby game last Sunday in a fishing trip at Catalina this afternoon."
1910-2-09 "THE big attraction in local baseball circles for next Saturday, Sunday and Monday is the scheduled mingling at Jack Doyle's Vernon park between the Santa Barbara club, champions of the Winter league, and the Los Angeles Trilbys. This arrangement will at last give the local fans an opportunity to see the northern champs work, and it is expected that Pitcher Hunt, who has made such a formidable showing with the northerners this winter, will be quite an attraction. His record of fourteen straight wins, ten of which were shutouts, indicates that the colored boys will have to romp along some to come out on the long end of the score."
    Black Cat listed in lineup for Trilbys. He was another guy who played with the San Antonio Bronchos in 1909.
1910-2-12 Despite 6-2 score the Santa Barbara-Trilby game was exciting. 
    "Jess Stoval's sensational playing in left garden yesterday for the Santa Barbara club was of excellent form. Jess made two hard catches, which if muffed would have meant runs for the colored aggregation. Pitcher "Helen" Hunt of the northern team also came in for diamond honors by picking up a fast one.
Max Callahan the former St. Vincent's athlete, caught a fine game for the northern team yesterday in the game against the Trilbys.
    Sneak thieves yesterday on the Vernon diamond broke into the players' dressing room and made a pretty good cleanup. Kelley of the Santa Barbara club lost $5 and a pocket knife and Coy of the same team was touched for several dollars in change. This is the second robbery reported from thta field within the last month.
    Stoval and Bertie Whaling will form the battery for the Channel City club this afternoon in the second game of the series of three with the Trilbys. "Helen" Hunt will be the mound artist in Sunday's game, with Carl Lewis on the receiving end."
1910-2-16 "That exhibition of the national game between the Santa Barbara club and the Trilbys at Jack Doyle's park Sunday was a pretty match to witness and the characteristic rooting of the colored talent present made it doubly interesting. But the zeal and vim displayed by the rooting smokes on that day, the cloudy sections of the bleachers and grandstand, and the fierceness of the struggle between the two contesting factions on that day will dwindle away in its insignificance when compared with the attraction scheduled for those grounds next Friday, Saturday and Sunday, when the Occidentals and the Trilbys, the cream of the local chocolate baseball heavers, will mingle. Manager White of the Occidentals claims the colored baseball championship of Utah and the Pacific coast, but this claim has no disturbing effect on Manager White of the Trilby organization, who gently agreed to White's claims, but went him one better in the following words: "Huh, if that Occidental bunch am all dat, den the Trilbys am de champions of the world." According to this, the outcome of the coming series will definitely settle the three titles, and then some. That a world's colored baseball championship is at stake is not such a joke as it may seem to be. Where under the Stars and Stripes, the home of the game, is there a colored team stronger than these two that would have a chance to win from either in a series of games? Whichever team wins the coming series it can consistently lay claim to the world's colored baseball championship title and defend it against whoever enters a dispute. On Washington's birthday, February 22, the two clubs will meet on the Chutes diamond, when it is expected that the record attendance of the season will be present."
1910-2-24 "WHAT will Manager Black's wife say when she reads that her hubby has cold feet? There surely is something the matter with the lower extremities of that local baseball magnate, as Manager White is most conscientious in his statement that the Occidental manager was afraid to let the Trilby aggregation take another fall out the Utah bumpkins of the diamond shaped layout. "But for Red Taylor's unpopular decisions in the eye of the sporting public," said the guiding spirit of the Trilby hopes, "there would have been quite another story to tell about last Sunday's conflict on the Vernon grounds."
    From the general trend of opinion it seems that that old-time handler of the indicator will have to wait quite a while before another opportunity arises to serve judgment on White's chocolate aggregation. Owing to what Manager Black calls "too much of the fighting spirit on the part of the dinges from the Lone Star state, cropping out last Sunday," the game scheduled between the Oxys and the Trilbys at the Chutes grounds for this afternoon has been called off by the cold-footed leader of the imported aggregation of ball tossers from that Utah country. Because of this breaking of a contract, which had been properly drawn up by both managers and both parties interested, the Trilbys claim the championship of the Pacific coast, and if Manager Black has aught to say it's up to him to say when, where and how, with the exception of Red Taylor holding the indicator."
    Los Angeles Giants, fast colored team, wants game. 
1910-2-25   Emmet Rogers will play Occidentals with PCL combination next Sunday. 
    Santa Barbara will play the Trilbys again at Vernon Park on Sunday. 
    ""Goose" Pittman, said a fan who was watching a game in which the left field marvel of the McCormick club was playing, "is without doubt the greatest heaving individual wearing the baseball uniform in Southern California today." This remark, which about hits the nail on the head, was overheard by a smoked baseball fan of the Trilby following. "Lo'd man," came in the coon dialect from the tier above the Pittman advocate, "you neveh have seen no flinging. Why, dat man Cyclone of dat Trilby agagashun can heave dat little round thing clean across dat city of Watts, sah, without even touching a chu'ch steeple." This line of bunk, although pretty strong, did not feaze the admirer of "Goose," who snorted the following retort while reaching up and gently fanning the protruding extremity of the colored top piece with a fist full of greenbacks. "Bet you the wad that your Texas Cyclone won't make the noise of the gentlest zephyr after his match with the tornado from Kansas." That fist full of dough held the chocolate hued fan in a trance for a few seconds, but on recovering, he slowly turned to his pal, who was seated next to him, and said: "Say, Bill, wha' am dot fou' bits dat ah loaned you last week?"
      Lists scores for games on Washington's birthday. (2-22.) Pasadena beat Trilbys 6-5. No boxes in 2-23 paper.
1910-2-28   Santa Barbara beat Trilbys 10-1 on Sunday. Santa Barbara has disbanded for the season as several of its players will report to the PCL.
1910-3-05 Goldsmith will play Trilbys Sunday.
 1910-3-07 (Mon.) Manager Hansen of the Goldsmiths not discouraged by defeat; would be happy to play Trilbys again for money, chalk, or marbles. 
    Glendale team pic. 
1910-3-10 On Sunday, the Trilbys will play the Los Angeles Grays for the colored champion of Vernon and a side-bet of $50. 
1910-4-15 The Los Angeles Giants, no longer the Trilbys, want a game for Sunday.

    https://nlbemuseum.com/history/players/williamsj.html Mention that Smokey Joe pitched for the Trilbys. 

    1909 San Antonio Bronchos (BR) With Black Cat, Otto Bolden, Baby and Lon Webb, Smokey Joe Williams, and Tom Mooney. 


     1910-1-20 Trilbys have signed Cyclone Joe Williams. 6'3" 218 lbs. and from TX. 
1910-1-29 Evening Express. Trilbys will play Seraph Stars tomorrow. Game arranged at request of Trilbys, who want revenge for their defeat at the hands of the Angels a year ago. "Black Cat" is reputed to be one of the fastest third sackers in the country, light or dark. 
    Sam Langford will throw out the first pitch. 

    1910-1-16 Trilbys 2, City Leaguers 2. Game at Mace Park before a fair attendance. 
    1910-1-22 Shamrocks shutout Trilbys 3-0. Cyclone Joe played 1b. First appearance of Trilbys since reorganization. 
    McCormicks will get $100 if they take tomorrow's game. 
    1910-1-23 The McCormicks (Shamrocks/Irishmen) shutout the Trilbys 2-0 at Jack Doyle's Vernon park. 
    "Many a colored fan will go without his pork chops this week as a result of the second beating that McCormick's Shamrocks handed the Trilbys at Jack Doyle's Vernon park yesterday, when the Irish aggregation whitewashed the dinges by the score of 2 to 0. The attendance was good, and Manager White's team had a large following of loyal rooters, who did their best to cheer the Trilbys to greater efforts, but to no avail. The Irishmen had on their fighting clothes. As a result of the victory, Manager Jim is one hundred bones to the good and all the Shamrock players are wearing the "Teddy" smile, put there by the juicy cut from the gate. Now for a championship game between the Occidentals and the Shamrocks. "
    Cyclone Joe Williams pitched for the Trilbys. 
    1910-1-30 Los Angeles Angels 4, Trilbys 3. Good attendance (at Chutes Park.) Cyclone Joe pitched for Trilbys. 
    1910-2-11 SBMP. Santa Barbara won the first game of a three game series from the Colored Trilbys 6-2. 
    "In the second inning, with two out and the bases full, Hunt, playing left field in place of Martinke who was injured earlier in the day in an automobile accident, made a spectacular catch of a line drive which retired the side and won the grandstand."
    "Martinke's injuries include a broken nose." 
    1910-2-12 Herald. Box. Mooney shutout Santa Barbara. 
    1910-2-12 Santa Barbara Morning Press. Trilbys won 2nd game of series 2-0 in hotly contested game. No box. Mooney (Morney) pitched for the Trilbys. Alleged $1000 side-bet on today's game. 
    1910-2-13 Santa Barbara Independent. The Santa Barbara Monks won the third game 1-0. "Pitcher Hunt is said to have worked like a machine, his left-handed curves proving too hard a riddle for the 'dingies' to solve." 
    1910-2-26 Herald. Santa Barbara 13, Trilbys 1. Mooney smacked - Cyclone Bill will pitch today. 
    "Notwithstanding this overwhelming defeat, White's aggregation is confident of turning the tables today when the two clubs meet in the same pasture. "Just a streak of baseball hard luck that will happen to most any team at any time," said Manager White, when speaking of the disaster after the game yesterday. "But," continued the dark-complexioned magnate, "I'll have that rabbit foot on hand today, and there will be a different story."
    Eddie Maier watched the game. His takeaway was that "whenever a negro got a stiff punch or was falling behind in any sort of contest, his heart wizened up to the size of a peapod and quit beating."
    This observation makes Maier even more confident that Jefferies will smite Johnson. 
    1910-3-06 Trilbys beat Goldsmith 1-0. Goldsmith = sporting goods store that made baseballs. (see 1909-12-18)
        Pettus at 1b for Trilbys; Cyclone Joe pitched. Elmer Rieger pitched for Goldsmith. 
    1910-3-20 Trilbys beat Ontario 4-2. Merely brief note. 
            1910-3-24 Ontario corrects record; did not lose 4-2 to Trilbys but beat them 4-1.

Alexander Giants
https://agatetype.typepad.com/agate_type/2017/02/alexander-giants.html of Los Angeles. Good pics, talk. Had Claxton in 1921. 

1921-9-03 California Eagle. Boxes- Alexander Giants-Santa Ana doubleheader. Jim Alexander's Giants. "the 'Black Cat' Adams Williams," Giants 2b. 

https://negroleagues.bravehost.com/anz.html Only one article from 1909 season but it's helpful


https://baseballhistorydaily.com/2014/05/14/the-occidentals/ Decent description of play in LA 1909-10
https://www.milb.com/salt-lake/fans/Occidentals Contains inaccuracies. Team pic. 

https://shadowballexpress.wordpress.com/2015/03/21/negro-league-baseball-ad-lankford-vs-jack-rogers-in-the-battle-royal/ Ad Lankford boxed once in 1911 - described as being around 164 lb. Good pic. Lost his only match. 

    Good article. 
"Ogden had fielded baseball teams since 1870, and although they were almost exclusively all-white squads, Black players occasionally took part. For example, in 1890, future boxing great Robert “Bobby” Dobbs caught for the semipro Ogden club."
    
    The Ogden Assembly Club reformed in 1906 as the Salt Lake City Occidentals. Majority of team were former Assembly players. 


1924-8-30 Bill Pettus obit. 

https://lasentinel.net/the-legacy-of-the-los-angeles-white-sox-in-black-baseball-history.html Apparently LA Giants beat Walter Johnson 6-5 in 11 innings in 1908-09
    William H. Carroll and James M. Alexander later founded the Alexander Giants in the early 1920s. Pic + info. 
 

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